Rate Hike Heeded by Gold, Ignored by Stocks

The price action was not what most of those in the gold community hoped for (or predicted). The price of gold dropped another $24 and that of silver nearly a whole dollar.

 

Observing the stock market triggers all sort of reactions….

Cartoon by Bob Rich

 

The big news of course is that the Fed hiked rates another 25 basis points. So far, stock market speculators don’t seem to care. They should.

The present value of all future earnings depends on the interest rate, and every upwards tick is a substantial downward revision of earnings in out years.

However, the bull is so strongly entrenched that it may take a while for this to sink in. We also think of the companies which were borrowing to buy their own shares, and for that matter borrowing to pay dividends. At what interest rate do those types of trades stop?

 

Fundamental Developments

Are higher interest rates bad for gold and badder for silver? Are we close to capitulation in the metals? Readers of last week’s Report know that we put the fundamental prices of gold and silver at $1,190 and just over $15. Where are they now after this week’s action?

Below, we will give an update on those fundamental prices. But first, here’s the graph of the metals’ prices.

 

Prices of gold and silver – click to enlarge.

 

Next, this is a graph of the gold price measured in silver, otherwise known as the gold to silver ratio. It rose sharply this week.

 

Gold-silver ratio – click to enlarge.

 

For each metal, we will look at a graph of the basis and co-basis overlaid with the price of the dollar in terms of the respective metal. It will make it easier to provide brief commentary. The dollar will be represented in green, the basis in blue and co-basis in red.

 

Here is the gold graph.

 

Gold basis and co-basis and the dollar price – click to enlarge.

 

Last week, we said the dollar was shooting the moon. It was then worth 26.8 milligrams gold. Now it is at 27.4, and we had to expand the graph to see the new height.

When speculators sell off their positions, the red co-basis line (i.e. scarcity of gold) moves with the dollar. That is not, however, what we saw this week. Gold became less scarce at $1,135 on Friday than it was at $1,159 a week ago.

That is the fact, and we call it as we see it. The fundamental price is still above the market, just under $1,160.

What makes this both exciting and challenging is that the price at which metal would clear keeps moving, along with the speculators’ effect on the quoted market price. This week, real metal came to market. This is what caused the price drop.

Now let’s look at silver.

 

Silver basis and co-basis and the dollar price – click to enlarge.

 

In terms of silver, the dollar rose even more, from 1.85 to 1.94 grams. Unlike in gold, the silver co-basis did rise though not a lot.

And our calculated fundamental price moved up to $15.50.

 

Charts by: Monetary Metals

 

Dr. Keith Weiner is the president of the Gold Standard Institute USA, and CEO of Monetary Metals. Keith is a leading authority in the areas of gold, money, and credit and has made important contributions to the development of trading techniques founded upon the analysis of bid-ask spreads. Keith is a sought after speaker and regularly writes on economics. He is an Objectivist, and has his PhD from the New Austrian School of Economics. He lives with his wife near Phoenix, Arizona.

 

 
 

 
 

Dear Readers!

You may have noticed that our so-called “semiannual” funding drive, which started sometime in the summer if memory serves, has seamlessly segued into the winter. In fact, the year is almost over! We assure you this is not merely evidence of our chutzpa; rather, it is indicative of the fact that ad income still needs to be supplemented in order to support upkeep of the site. Naturally, the traditional benefits that can be spontaneously triggered by donations to this site remain operative regardless of the season - ranging from a boost to general well-being/happiness (inter alia featuring improved sleep & appetite), children including you in their songs, up to the likely allotment of privileges in the afterlife, etc., etc., but the Christmas season is probably an especially propitious time to cross our palms with silver. A special thank you to all readers who have already chipped in, your generosity is greatly appreciated. Regardless of that, we are honored by everybody's readership and hope we have managed to add a little value to your life.

   

Bitcoin address: 1DRkVzUmkGaz9xAP81us86zzxh5VMEhNke

   
 

One Response to “Fed Rate Hike Causes Gold Price Drop”

Your comment:

You must be logged in to post a comment.

Most read in the last 20 days:

  • The Golden Age Has Just Begun
      Some Things Actually Go Up Before and During the Fall... In recent issues of Seasonal Insights I have discussed two asset classes that tend to suffer  performance problems in most years until the autumn, namely stocks and bitcoin. I thought you might for a change want to hear of an asset that will be in a seasonal uptrend over coming months.   Many things, including bitcoin, stocks and leaves tend to fall in the aptly named fall... but some things actually start to...
  • Adventures in Quantitative Tightening
      Flowing Toward the Great Depression All remaining doubts concerning the place the U.S. economy and its tangled web of international credits and debts is headed were clarified this week. On Monday, Mark Yusko, CIO of Morgan Creek Capital Management, told CNBC that:   “…we’re flowing toward the path of 1928-29 when Hoover was president. Now Trump is president. Both were presidents with no experience who come in with a Congress that is all Republican, lots of big promises,...
  • A Look at the Gold and Silver Price Drop of 3 July, 2017
      Mystery Nosedive The price of gold dropped from $1,241 as of Friday’s close to $1,219 on the close Monday, or -1.8%. The price of silver fell from $16.58 to $16.11, or -2.9%. It is being called a gold and silver “smash” (implication being that one party or a conspiracy is doing the smashing).   The flight of the gold rocket, different phases [PT]   Our goal is to help you develop a clear understanding. The move was no mystery. Monetary Metals makes an intensive...
  • Tales from the FOMC Underground
      A Great Big Dud Many of today’s economic troubles are due to a fantastic guess.  That the wealth effect of inflated asset prices would stimulate demand in the economy. The premise, as we understand it, was that as stock portfolios bubbled up investors would feel better about their lot in life.  Some of them would feel so doggone good they’d go out and buy 72-inch flat screen televisions and brand-new electric cars with computerized dashboards on credit.   The Wilshire...
  • How Dumb Is the Fed?
      Bent and Distorted POITOU, FRANCE – This morning, we are wondering: How dumb is the Fed? The question was prompted by this comment by former Fed insider Chris Whalen at The Institutional Risk Analyst blog.   They're not the best map readers, that much is known for certain. [PT]   [O]ur message to the folks in Jackson Hole this week [at the annual central banker meeting there] is that the end of the Fed’s reckless experiment in social engineering via QE and...
  • India: The Lunatics Have Taken Over the Asylum
      Goods and Services Tax, and Gold (Part XV) Below is a scene from anti-GST protests by traders in the Indian city of Surat. On 1st  July 2017, India changed the way it imposes indirect taxes. As a result, there has been massive chaos around the country. Many businesses are closed for they don’t know what taxes apply to them, or how to do the paperwork. Factories are shut, and businesses are protesting.   A massive anti-GST protest in Surat  [PT]   Increases...
  • The Student Loan Bubble and Economic Collapse
      The Looming Last Gasp of Indoctrination? The inevitable collapse of the student loan “market” and with it the take-down of many higher educational institutions will be one of the happiest and much needed events to look forward to in the coming months/years.  Whether the student loan bubble bursts on its own or implodes due to a general economic collapse, does not matter as long as higher education is dealt a death blow and can no longer be a conduit of socialist and egalitarian...
  • The Money Velocity Myth
      Popular Imagery of Money on the Move For most financial commentators an important factor that either reinforces or weakens the effect of changes in the money supply on economic activity and prices is the “velocity of money”.   An image from an article on the intertubes that “explains” the velocity of money (one of the articles we came across started out as follows: “The economy runs smoothly only when there is enough money in circulation. How much is enough?” ...
  • Which Is Worse? America or France?
      French Fraud POITOU, FRANCE – “Which is worse? America or France?” The question must be put in context. We were invited to dinner with local farmers last night. Jean-Yves and Arlette live in a modest house in the nearby town – an efficient and cozy place built about 25 years ago. They’ve added a solarium to the back, where we had dinner.   FAF – French-American Friendship. These days it's a “which is worse” competition... [PT]   Arlette operates a...
  • Gold and Silver Capitulation – Precious Metals Supply & Demand Report
      Last Week in Precious Metals: Peak Hype, Stocks vs. Flows and Capitulation The big news this week was the flash crash in silver late on 6 July.  We will shortly publish a separate forensic analysis of this, as there is a lot to see and say.   Silver - 1,000 troy ounce good delivery bars, approved by the COMEX. Whatever you do, do not let one of these things land your feet. For readers used to the metric system: these bars weigh approximately between 28 to 33 kilograms...
  • No “Trump Bump” for the Economy
      Crackpot Schemes POITOU, FRANCE – “Nothing really changes.” Sitting next to us at breakfast, a companion was reading an article written by the No. 2 man in France, Édouard Philippe, in Le Monde. The headline promised to tell us how the country was going to “deblock” itself.  But upon inspection, the proposals were the same old claptrap about favoring “green” energy... changing the tax code to reward one group and punish another...  and spending more money on various...
  • Putting the Latest Silver Crash Under a Lens
      An Unenthusiastic Market On Thursday, July 6, in the late afternoon (as reckoned in Arizona), the price of silver crashed. The move was very brief, but very intense. The price hit a low under $14.40 before recovering to around $15.80 which is about 20 cents lower than where it started.   1 kilogram cast silver bars from an Austrian refinery. These are available in 250 g, 500 g and 1 kg sizes and look really neat. We use the 250 g ones as paperweights, so this is an...

Support Acting Man

j9TJzzN

Austrian Theory and Investment

Own physical gold and silver outside a bank

Archive

350x200

THE GOLD CARTEL: Government Intervention on Gold, the Mega Bubble in Paper and What This Means for Your Future

Realtime Charts

 

Gold in USD:

[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]

 


 

Gold in EUR:

[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]

 


 

Silver in USD:

[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]

 


 

Platinum in USD:

[Most Recent Quotes from www.kitco.com]

 


 

USD - Index:

[Most Recent USD from www.kitco.com]

 

 
Buy Silver Now!
 
Buy Gold Now!
 

Oilprice.com

savant